In this episode of the Talk Design podcast, host Adrian Ramsey sits down with Mike Roberts, the author, real estate investor, and podcast host widely known as The Converse Cowboy.
Mike shares his origin story, detailing his journey from growing up playing baseball in North Louisiana to working in pharmaceutical sales. Inspired by foundational texts like Napoleon Hill's Think and Grow Rich and Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad, Mike fundamentally shifted his mindset away from the traditional "factory worker" conditioning of going to school and getting a standard job. Instead, he built a real estate portfolio that eventually allowed him to walk away from his corporate career.
The conversation takes a deep dive into Mike's newly released Amazon #1 bestselling book, Perspective as a Verb. Originally planned as a daily entry book with 365 quotes, Mike details the rigorous editing process with Scribe Publishing that helped distill the work down to 101 powerful illustrations and personal reflections. He explains how the book serves as his own journal and philosophical guide, born out of a dark period following a divorce.
Adrian and Mike also explore Mike's passion for the performance horse world. Mike shares a profound analogy from his book, comparing the untrained subconscious mind to a young, unbroken colt, and the conscious mind to the rider who must use consistency and awareness to guide it.
